Elizabeth Day's "How to Fail" podcast is a favourite of mine. This week she interviewed the magnificently wise leading psychotherapist Julia Samuel MBE, author of "Grief Works" and "This Too Shall Pass".
As Julia says: "We are brought up thinking life is an upward journey, a stairway to a better place, each step higher than the last. But the reality is far less certain: there are ups and downs, and the only certainty that exists is that there will be change"
Listen here:
